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McClellan: A weaponized America makes the slaughter so much easier

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3 comments:

  • Chet posted at 10:35 am on Sat, Dec 29, 2012.

    Chet Posts: 91

    Afnanalog, I won't argue with you about there being too much violence in society, but you need to turn off the AM radio con men and learn to fact check those Tea Party email "newsletters".

    I'll bet you my next paycheck your not going to see a civil war in your lifetime.

    And you don't need an assault weapon to defeat the government, go back and read your Constitution, you just need to convince enough people to vote with you.

    There is no law or FCC regulation stating that you must tell the truth on TV, radio, or the internet. Stop letting the Glenn Beck's and other con men scare you. They're just after your money.

     
  • afnanalog posted at 2:07 pm on Thu, Dec 27, 2012.

    afnanalog Posts: 64

    How about going to a movie and NOT seeing an insanely non-realistic shoot-out, where the "good-guys" never get hurt... only the bad guys?

    How about banning violent video games, in public or private?

    Our crazy Hollywoodized society makes violence "fun". We have to put a stop to that!

    The Constitution put the 2nd Amendment in place to allow us to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.

    Just check out our present government and you'll see why we need the 2nd Amendment.

    In the civil war that will follow our coming depression, we will need guns to protect ourselves from thieves (aka non-productive leftists :-)

     
  • Chet posted at 10:55 am on Mon, Dec 24, 2012.

    Chet Posts: 91

    If you can't kill a deer in three shots or less, you are not a hunter. No one needs high capacity weapons.

    No one. The blue helmets of the UN are not coming in spite of the con men on AM radio who want to sell you survival gear and books, they just use fear to scare you out of your money.

    Canada is not arming against us. The violence on the border with Mexico is caused by our failed war on drugs. We learned nothing from prohibition.

    There was an armed guard at Columbine. He was joined by a sheriff, and they couldn't stop the carnage inside, they were out gunned.

    Thinking a retired cop halfway across campus can stop a military style attack on children ignores reality and flies in the face of reason.

    The guy in Newtown used a weapon that no one outside the military needs to shoot through the security glass and enter the building.

    An armed guard at a school against that kind of weapon is either the first fatality or the last.

    Arming every teacher is a recipe for more deaths. Kids will find a way to get into things, and teachers are not there to act as body guards.

    Instead of more guns, as the lobbyists at the NRA say, how about I send my kids to school and the DON'T witness a shootout? How about I go to the movies and just watch a movie? How about I go to the mall and just do some shopping?

    The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is NOT a good guy with a gun, it's a bad guy with NO gun.

    This problem is NOT too big so solve. Other countries don't have this problem, and they watch the same movies and play the same video games we do. I agree our entertainment is too violent, I disagree it is the only problem.

    People say anyone with a Porsche or Corvette is compensating for something, and ads for the Bushmaster that was used in Newtown had slogans like "Get your man card back".

    If you need a military style weapon to feel like a man, you have deeper issues, and we do not think "oh, he's got a big gun, he's a real man", we think "oh, that guy spent $800.00 to compensate for something".

    And before anyone starts quoting, or more likely, mis-quoting the founding fathers, know that I'll support your right to own a musket. Poor in some powder, pack it down, drop in the ball, take your time. But you wont' get a second shot.

    Some gun folks were pointing to an incident in China, where the citizens are not armed, at a school on the same day as Newtown. Over twenty children were attacked by a man with a knife.

    As horrifying as that is, there were no fatalities. None.

    Keep a shotgun to protect your home or for hunting, keep an appropriate hunting rille and use it for hunting.

    But if you think your "right" to own a military weapon outweighs the right of those children to live a decent life, or for the rest of us to enjoy a movie in peace, you need to look deep into yourself and find out what is missing from your life.

    And if you think you need a military weapon because the government may get tyrannical, you need to read the Constitution. We overthrow our government all the time. You don't need a gun to do it, you just need to convince enough people to vote with you.

    An armed people are not a polite people, an armed people are a third world country.

    We're going to hear plenty from "responsible" gun owners, like Lori Klein, who likes to point her little pink gun at people, I'm sure.

    I think a responsible gun owner wouldn't need a military grade weapon, and I have yet to hear an argument for military weapons that made any sense.

    And please don't say "well, cars kill people all the time, do you want to outlaw cars?", because we regulate cars. I can't drive a NASCAR stock car on the street, and my car, unlike your military weapon, is designed to get me to work and then home, not to kill people.

    Which is all that high capacity military grade weapon of your was designed to do.

    People don't kill people. People with GUNS kill people. People with high capacity military grade weapons kill lots of people fast.

     

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